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Pg. 58: You Hardly Mentioned Him January 28th, 2010, 12:05 pm

it takes a lot of food to run that motor-mouth of hers

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Author Notes: Four King Hell, January 28th, 2010, 12:29 pm

Strap yourselves in, boys and girls, we've got a lot to get through.

Ok, I'm not going to say anything about this page, because I have a lot of almost unrelated stuff to get through and I don't want to waste your time. You feel free to talk about it if you want, though.

First Thing:
This is something I meant to put up for a while but kept forgetting; a lot of 4KH readers are really great fanfic writers, and they have their own interpretations of the characters' personalities and (as I understand it) mine are pretty different to a lot of peoples' concepts. So I decided that if any fanfic/fancomic writers are interested (or just anyone, really) in finding out why I characterised the characters in the ways I did, I wrote a short (!? LIES) essay on the topic here.

Second Thing:
Thanks everyone for responding to the last page's post asking you for what you'd like to see in 4KH! I want to keep this as short as possible (I'm not doing well) so I'll just sort it into three lists;
Stuff I was going to include before, so, WISH GRANTED IN ADVANCE:
- Moar Saffir and moar four sisters
- The introduction of the other Sailor Soldiers
- Some kind of Neph boob joke
- More villains (Amazon Trio for starters)
- Some sort of epic throwdown between Neph and Mako
- Kunzite vs. Kitty
- Adventures in Jobhunting!
- A big serious all-out battle at the end

Stuff I wasn't going to include before but totally am now:
- Kunzite trying to use his iPhone and failing (or succeeding brilliantly against all odds)
- Mamoru going to a parent teacher interview for Jadeite
- Starlights? Maybe? Depends on if they have any room to breathe with all the other characters.
- Shirtless Neph
- Adonis, if I can
- "Your boyfriend is part horse!?" "Jealousss?"
- "Hey, so your name is Seiya, huh~? Sexy!" "Sorry, dude. I'm a lesbian." "... So am I?"

Stuff that for various reasons I cannot include in the actual 4KH plotline but boy do I wish I could:
- Dimande pelvic thrusting
- Dimande and Haruka getting 'in' on the bet (pretty sure Haruka's won that bet already. Like, twenty times. In five different public bathrooms)
- Four sisters hitting on the Four Kings
- Zombie Manga!Sisters
- Androgynous!Ami ffffffffffffffffffffffffff
- Luna and Mamoru conspiring to get Usagi laid?? What!? xD
- Saffir and Ami getting it on to make Zoisite jealous is a nice idea, but unfortunately he's taken ):
- So is Saffir and Setsuna getting it on, but... I have other romantic plans for her~ fufufufufu

The Last Thing:

I don't like to ask you to do things for me, but it would be a big help to me if you could do me this one little favour. For a variety of reasons (organisation, head-counting, easier events in the future) it would be GREAT if, if you consider yourself to be a 'reader' of 4KH (that is, someone interested in coming back and checking for updates), you could take the time to sign up for a free SmackJeeves account and add Four King Hell to your favourites. This is basically the easiest way I can think of for me to not only keep track of exactly how many people are reading 4KH but also to keep track of individuals, which would really make any events in the future easier + more diverse. It's totally up to you and you are, of course, not obligated to do anything (it's not like I'll suddenly stop writing if I don't get a certain number of 'faves'), but it would really mean a lot to me if you did. Besides, SmackJeeves is a great website and signing up has a whole swag-bag of non-4KH-related benefits (such as not having to see any ads when you read webcomics hosted on it!). Thankyou for your time!
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sailor_titan, January 28th, 2010, 12:53 pm

Sorry 'bout my... unprofessional display, chatroomfreak-san.

It's actually interesting, because I used to think that Heliusa fans were few and far between, and now I'm starting to realize there's actually a LOT of Heliusa fans, even more than Harumichi fans. (And I thought those were a dime a dozen.)

I think some of the fangirl squee stems of the fact that I *already* liked this comic so much, even though it *didn't* have my two favorite characters (Well, I like Ami-chan a lot too) so it was like Christmas to hear that you were probably including them.

(also, you included saffir, *another* one of my favorite characters. So basically, you're the best thing ever. At least where fan comics are concerned. ;-D)

It's actually kind of unusual and cool that you accept ideas for your comic. But I recommend that you put up something like, "once you give me an idea you're surrendering it to me and you can't be all YOU STOLE MY IDEA" on me" because there are people out there who will do that, and when this comic becomes [more] popular (and I fully expect that within a year or two most of the sailor moon fanbase will be reading it) you will inevitably have to deal with this particularly annoying drama if you don't put something up on smackjeeves that says something to that effect.

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Spirit-hime, January 28th, 2010, 1:37 pm

Ha, I love the exchange between Kunzite and Saffir. Also blabbermouth Ami and over-eager Jadeite just fill this page with cute.

I'm sad that none of my requests are up there, especially androgynous!Ami. I'm sure you must have monumentally good reasons not to be drawing her in tight little pants and a well-cut suit jacket. But, I guess I am appeased by shirtless Neph and parent teacher interviews.

I'll be interested to read your essay on characterization, but like you said, it's all about the choices you make, and nobody knows this better than Shitennou fic authors. If you took a sampling of our versions of the characters, you'd have everything from Ami/femme!Zoi lesbian hotness to tattooed ecowarrior Jewish Zoi to sweet Welsh rugby player Kunz to Russian mafia spy Kunz to... *blathers on*

Point being, it's all good. And also I love you for giving so much love to Mamoru, and making him a three dimensional character, full of flaws and weird quirks and awesome. If I had only one request, it would be MOAR MAMORU.

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whittertwitter, January 28th, 2010, 4:23 pm

Long time reader, first time commenter...
Hello, there!

I first found this comic through deviantART, and I loved it instantly! It's funny and clever at the same time, something that's hard to find and even harder to find done RIGHT.

Lovely page, as always. Silly Ami! From the way things are looking now, Jadeite or Kunzite are the ones most likely to win the bet, unless, as others have mentioned, Usagi has been wanting Mamoru this whole time.

Can I make a suggestion? Since it's been brought up in this page, I'd really like to see Mamoru threaten to tell Kenji-papa about Demand's little obsession with Usagi.

Keep up the good work!

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Last Haven (Guest), January 28th, 2010, 5:44 pm

"Oh, you know, the same."--Kunzite and Saffir remain awesome. :D

For some reason, I really, REALLY like that overhead shot of Rei and Ami. It gives the room an interesting sense of scope. And oh, Ami--you're going to obsess just a little about this aren't you? Also, Ami's outfit's really cute here. And Rei, just pretty much nodding along (although, probably paying attention just as much. Ah the wonders of multi-tasking.)

Heh, eager Jade is sooo cute! :D Good luck, bud, you're going to need it.

Yay, Amazon Trio! :D I really loved them in the anime, they cracked me up sometimes. Also, "YOU'RE NOT MY DADEITE" cracked me the hell up. It's going to be in my head forever.

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Guest, January 28th, 2010, 6:08 pm

Another first time commenter...
LOL at Kunzite and Saffir. And I love Rei's expression in the last panel. Man, I can't wait to see what happens when Jadeite gets home...

Re: characterization
There's plenty of room for interpretation, especially with the Shitennou. I'm really enjoying your versions of them.

I think Ami (at least in the anime) seems pretty frank about sexuality. At least until she catches herself or the others tease her about it. There's a scene in the R movie, just after they've encountered Fiore for the first time and the girls are discussing it. Ami casually says something along the lines of "Well, Mamoru has always been popular, even with boys." and immediately gets dogpiled by the others. ("Ami-chan, ecchi!") At which point she starts blushing and stammering that that's not what she meant.

As to Ami never saying something rude... have you ever listened to the sound dramas? In the second one, she says something naughty ^_^ I don't know what, exactly, since a) I only speak fangirl Japanese, and b) it's bleeped out. (And you should hear Usagi's language. Dear gods, Usagi-chan, do you kiss your mother with that mouth? O_o) And in the first track of the first drama ("The pretty soldiers' diary of pure love exchange") she notes in one of her diary entries that she's received another love letter. From her tone of voice, it sounds like she gets these all the frikkin' time, and is so nonchalant about it that it's hilarious to listen to. (She also decides that the boy who sent her this letter isn't her type since he made at least three spelling mistakes. "Oh well. I have to write another letter of refusal.")

Then again, I don't think we can count the sound dramas as part of the cannon. They're more like crack!fics in audio form. With seiyuu jokes left and right, and the fourth wall gets broken so often that I wonder why they put the damn thing up to begin with. Pity, they're hilarious. Where else can you find Zoisite playing a word-chain game with the Senshi? (Yes, he cheats.) Or Kunzite buying popcorn and ice cream and hot dogs? Or the Senshi beating up Mamoru and Luna? Or Mako-chan bumping into Kunzite and then pulling her "senpai!" routine on him?

...and, damn, this turned out to be a long comment. Sorry about that ^^;;;

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Pia-chan, January 28th, 2010, 6:10 pm

...and that last comment was me. I could have sworn I was logged in -_-;;;

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BLL (Guest), January 29th, 2010, 12:01 am

Oh man, I can't wait for KunziteVSKitty (because I get the feeling that's going to end hilariously.)

BTW, Jadeite is so cute, how can Rei resist his adorableness? (Seriously, the guy is like what a puppy and kitty would produce if they mated and were able to have offspring.)

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UNKNOW (Guest), January 29th, 2010, 12:11 am

look like bad. i don't tell you my name. sorry.

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Chibi Jennifer (Guest), January 29th, 2010, 3:01 am

Can't wait to see MOAR!!

Just read your essay, was very interesting to read :D!

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Celeste Goodchild (Guest), January 29th, 2010, 7:07 pm

I keep meaning to tell you how much I <3 this comic, and I never seem to get around to it...oh look! I finally did! ^__^ Seriously, I've totally fallen down the nostalgia rabbit hole here and it's wonderful. As if the Four Kings weren't enough, now I've got Dimande and Saffir YAY. And that last panel with Rei and Ami is ridiculously cute, too!

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Roses Ablaze, January 30th, 2010, 4:22 pm

Already done. I just comment without my account because I'm too lazy to sign in. :p

I thought of a request for the comic after you already asked for suggestions. Can Phobos and Deimos play roles, even minor ones? Have personalities?

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elianthos, January 31st, 2010, 4:25 am

I registered. Happy? XD
eheheh. The little exchange between Saffir and Kunzite had me grinning.

Blabbering Ami is just so cute. And Jeddy is an adorable eager puppy here *pets him*. [after reading your characterization essay on Rei] Ah, if he only knew... lol XD.

I'm a bit sad there will be no Dimando's pelvic thrusting. But this is not ruling out pelvic thrusting per se from the comic, amIrite?:D XD
Also, no Ami schemes involving Saffir *pouts* or male clothes (with a little consulence by Haruka) *pouts some more* ?
But i's fine, there are other juicy ideas that made it for this storyline . Hooray :D.

I'm thrilled to know you've romantic plans for Setsuna. And I'll tell you: my crack ship for her is Setsuna x Dimando (because Saffir x Dimando is my personal fanon OTP :p ) . Just saying XD. Or, if she surrenders to the Outers Les!Yay curse (remember the jabs at HotaruxChibiusa in the DeathBusters manga arc? :p), a crack ship could be GalaxiaxSetsuna XD.

Also, the Starlights may be still appear as guest stars. Or, rather, their kinky leather senshi outfits *whistles innocently*

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VO1 (Guest), February 2nd, 2010, 2:37 am

Yes, I agree with Elianthos. There must be some sort of pelvic thrusting. Maybe Neph?

And wow am I in the minority, but I vote a NO on Chibihelios...just because the character count is getting high, and the whole premise was "four king hell" and their wager...it may get unwieldy unless they are like the Aliens and just appear for a little while, but I Trust In Frizzy and I'm curious to see how it plays out.

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UNKNOW (Guest), February 2nd, 2010, 9:55 pm

no more read??? i want to read your comics! evil prince want be with princess date?

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Spirit-hime, February 3rd, 2010, 11:07 pm

I'm sure you're all busy and stuff Frizzy (hey, no rush, life happens and genius can't be forced!), but due to lack of updates I am forced to use this spot to babble at you about your character essay.

Mamoru. FUCK YEAH, there's more to him than the anime tells us. He really does have a personality, you just have to infer more from certain scenes. Your Mamoru isn't quite my Mamoru, but I still think he's awesome. :D

Jadeite. YES to happy childish Jadeite. Who wants another frowny face in the group?

Neph. Tons of people go the mystical star reading route with him, and that's cool too, but I'm all about angry, booze-drinking, boobies-loving, fast car driving big grizzly bear Nephrite. Never stop making him awesome.

Zoisite and Kunzite, I just can't wait to see what else you do with them. I want to see Kunzite's prudishness play out. I'm actually very curious about what the story is on their relationship, since this is anime canon. Kunzite seems dead set on pretending it never happened, and I wonder how Zoisite's feeling about that.

Usagi and Mamoru were totally doing it in the manga, but Usagi in the manga also doesn't have the same emotional maturity as her elementary-age daughter.

Ami knows how to use the internets. There is no doubt in my mind that she knows everything there is to know about sex (and every position).

Generally agree with your choices for the girls. I love them all, in their own ways, and you highlight some of their best features.

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UNKNOW (Guest), February 11th, 2010, 3:29 pm

wow. okay. K.C

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James Birdsong (Guest), September 11th, 2010, 7:21 pm

Perfect. Both scenes perfect.

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Beloved Dawn, February 20th, 2011, 3:15 pm

Something I'd Like to See
Punk!ChhibiUsa dropping in to see her father, seeing Diamond, and beating the shit out of him.

Neph wanders into broroom. "Hey, there's some hot, pink-haired girl currently giving Diamond a smackdown. Should I go break it up?"

Mamoru: "Nah, he deserves it."

Or something like that.

And I'll have you know I did join smackjeeves just to add you as a favourite.

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Kate (Guest), November 20th, 2012, 12:07 pm


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